EP194: Whiteness and Counseling - Moving Beyond Performative White Allyship with Lee Mun Wah

Dr. Aaron Smith speaks with world renown diversity trainer, clinician, and author Lee Mun Wah on how counselors can move beyond performative allyship in support of people of marginalized identities. They delve into a discussion of many of Lee Mun Wah’s award winning documentaries highlighting diversity issues and examine the ways in which counselors often implicitly and explicitly exclude people of marginalized identities in their clinical work. They also discuss how representation in politics affect people of color’s wellbeing and the ways in which white counselors often avoid having difficult discussions on race in counseling with their clients. Finally, they discuss advocacy in counseling and explore a wide multitude of resources and trainings offered by Lee Mun Wah’s practice, Stirfry Seminars and Consulting. For more on Lee, links from the conversation, and then APA citation for this episode visit www.thethoughtfulcounselor.com. The Thoughtful Counselor is created in partnership with Palo Alto University’s Division of Continuing & Professional Studies. Learn more at www.paloaltou.edu/concept.

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