90. The Lost Gospel of Holy Contamination (ft. Paul and Billie Hoard)
Bruised roses. Chewed-up gum. Poop in the brownies.These were the metaphors the church gave my generation for our bodies, our desires, and our worth. But what if those weren't just bad illustrations but anti-Christian lies?Paul and Billie Hoard join us this week to introduce their groundbreaking new book, Eucontamination. Behind that unfamiliar word is this familiar yet powerful belief: to follow Jesus is to believe that good can infect the world more powerfully than evil ever could.Modern American Christianity has flipped that message, teaching us to fear the world instead of healing it. In this episode, we unpack how shame, purity culture, and Christian nationalism are all rooted in a hidden theology of contamination—and how Jesus turns it all upside down.We talk Bible, psychoanalysis, shame-filled youth group illustrations, and why Jesus consistently moves toward the “unclean” rather than avoiding them. Listen now and be among the first to learn about a concept that will reshape theology for decades to come!Be sure to follow Paul and Billie on Substack and pick up a copy of Eucontamination. Billie is also active on Facebook, Instagram, Threads, and BlueSky.Website: TheBibleUncut.com (show notes available in the blog section)Donate: TheBibleUncut.com/support-usDiscord: TheBibleUncutandUnfilteredEmail: cconn@thebibleuncut.comFacebook: TheBibleUncutandUnfilteredInstagram: @TheBibleUncutandUnfilteredTikTok: @BibleUncutandUnfilteredYouTube: @TheBibleUncutandUnfilteredEditor: Janna ConnorLitany for Followers of the Transgressive OneOne: When the time came for Mystery to be known, Creator became Creation, revealing G-d as WITH… Emmanuel! G-d is with us!Many: The Living Word became flesh and moved into the neighborhood.One: “If you have seen me, you have seen the One who sent me,” said Jesus of Nazareth.Many: So, who is Jesus? And what does Jesus do?One: Because Jesus is G-d, the Incarnate One does not consider equality with G-d something to grasp or cling to, but surrenders divinity in order to discover a way of symbiotic love with you, me, and all of creation.Many: If Christ is willing to give up G-dness in pursuit of loving relationship, what might that invite of us… of me?One: Jesus the Christ dined with the wrong people, embraced the unclean, flipped the tables of the powerful, welcomed the children, forgave his murderers, and called us friends.Many: Is this what Shalomic life looks like? Could it be, that the Kin-dom of G-d welcomes all and everything? Could it be that Jesus’ new commandment “To love one another, as Jesus has loved us” fulfills all prior commandments?One: For G-d did not send Christ into the world to condemn the work but to reconcile all and everything through Emmanuel.Many: Teach us, O G-d, to welcome the widow, the orphan, and the stranger; guiding us to live justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with the G-d who is WITH. Cheers.-Dwight Friesen